High Fat =/= High Fat

I believe Tabues mentioned this, but I could not believe the problem was so widespread! :o

When hearing "high fat" us keto-folks think 70-90%, whereas diet research establishment thinks of a high fat diet in the range of 20-50%. Higher levels are beyond their imagination. Furthermore, the 20% "high fat" diet has 40% (twice the fat content) of carbohydrate. Is that some sort of inside joke, like calling the short, skinny guy "Big Joe"?!

I'm browsing through my "to-read" research paper library, and I stumble upon "Lipotoxicity: effcts of Dietary Saturated and Transfatty Acids".

Thinking this could give me some insights into possible downsides to keto, I fire it up and start readin'. They go on about how a "high fat diet" causes insulin resistance and heart disease, I stay my rising eyebrow and press on; they mention how poorly the rats on their "hyperlipidic" diet fared. A source [18] is mentioned, a "A palatable hyperlipidic diet causes obesity and affects brain glucose metabolism in rats".

I scroll down eagerly to see their diet makeup. Surely, it must be 60% fat, 50% easy. It's 20%.

Here is another, an authorative "Defining high-fat-diet rat models: metabolic and molecular effects of different fat types."

And on it goes to define a "high-fat" model of 42%. Fuck me.

I don't want to go "and this why I don't bother reading what the other side has to say", but the research I want to see is 80% fat content diets administered for a minimum of 12 weeks (to allow for keto-adaptation). And none of that low-sodium bullshit either, do a proper 15:80:5 (protein:fat:carbs) ketogenic diet VS (15:15:60) (if anyone can get their fat intake that low, lol) high carb for twelve weeks in obese patients, agree on a salt content that doesn't break ketosis and then after keto produces better overall weight reduction and lipid profile results do a 3000Cal 15:80:5 ketogenic diet vs 1500 (hypocaloric) 15:80:5 keto diet and see if that makes any difference.